Comments on: Bakuman ch. 2, yikes.

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there it is, plain as daylight. » Bakuman, Bakuman, Bakuman — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:32:41 +0000

[...] sure a lot of you remember my big stink over the sexism in the second chapter of Ohba and Obata’s Bakuman. None of my feelings about [...]

By: Badtz

Badtz — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:41:28 +0000

Well,maybe I was too harsh,being upset from have finished reading that infamous dialogues in bakuman…well about DN i’m not against their popularity,but against how they’ve f*ed up a story so great,disappointing so many fans…I am one of them,I BOUGHT all the DN books so contributed to their success,in fact!
But I really feeled betrayed at the end in some way,I can’t explain well,but…After reading some good analysis and thoughing about the story more deeply myself,me and other people founded that the story at a certain point was like rushed up but more important they maked some bad mistakes building up the story too carelessly(and we noticed fully only after reading author’s interviews in how to read,so they’re facts not our convictions)…They’ve ruined what can be the better story in manga history,that’s my opinion.SO,take my rant as a disappointed fan’s one!!!

Plus,I simply can’t stand those silly prejudices about girls,and after DN I know it’s not only a coincidence but somewhat they believe,and being them adult people I simply cannot stand they are “teaching”those prejudices to young boys that are the main target of Bakuman.OK,they’re in Japan but if you choose to being openminded and better than that old prejudices you can teach young people to be better and somewhat changing Japan’s current culture.Well they’re already opening themselves as well,maybe slower so we can’t simply excuse such words as “it’s their culture”…even our culture was worse than what it is now many years ago!
Oh well sorry,my rant goes long XD

By: Melinda Beasi

Melinda Beasi — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:58:10 +0000

I admit that I’m surprised you could have missed it, since it was stated so blatantly in the text, but it’s certainly interesting to know. Thanks for stopping by!

By: Blade

Blade — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:13:51 +0000

Heyyy. I’m a guy, and I don’t know about all this… I’m sorry, sorry to tell you [[Most of you are girls, I'm guessing?]] But I really, REALLY, never noticed ANY sexism at all. I mean, now that you point things out it makes so much sense, but in the story, while reading it, I couldn’t see any message of sexism. I’ll like bakuman no matter what, because even though I’m in America, my dream is to become a mangaka, too. To be honest, as a guy, the whole thing really doesn’t matter to me, but it’s nice to know what other people notice when they read it, and what the mangaka was trying to say, even the parts I didn’t notice at all.

By: Melinda Beasi

Melinda Beasi — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:11:47 +0000

Sorry I’m so late replying to this! For some reason I never realized it was here!

Heh, I think you are definitely on to something regarding the popularity of Death Note. Though I think it really was a compelling story, at least to begin with.

By: Melinda Beasi

Melinda Beasi — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:10:32 +0000

How on earth did I miss this comment coming in? Geez. I agree that the sexism gets subdued in Chapter 3. I’m definitely interested in the story. It’s hooked me. And I think you’re right about the budding rivalry.

By: Oliver

Oliver — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:32:14 +0000

Speaking of “Being-too-smart-is-uncute-for-girls”, that instantly reminded me of Naru from Love Hina. In Vol.1, she changes her appearance and wears baggy clothes and glasses to school (while maintaining top marks in the class). Was this because she was hiding from Keitaro, or because she wanted to fit the uncute, smart girl role?

The sexism in Bakuman is typical, but it gets subdued in the newly released Chap. 3. In this manga, there’s something in the air that keeps gnawing at the reader. It’s quite an absorbing read. It would be interesting to see what new characters pop up later. I sense a rivalry/competition happening. Anyone else feel it?

By: Badtz

Badtz — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 01:25:56 +0000

Ugh…expecting to ohba and obata to CRITICISE sexism in any form?! they are THE sexism!!!Look at death note…there’s plenty of it,plenty! All girls are dumb,useless or simple puppets for the great,brilliant males….Eek!!!
I think that ohba is really overlooked as a writer. Ok DN had a great plot…at the very beginning.But I f you get deeper in the story there’s so many flaws and characters and situations often slipped out of his hands,not to mention that all this sexism,in the age we are living today,is really anachronistic at the very least!(I hope even in Japan?…yeah and in bakuman the main characters are only young boys,but the story is written by an author,that should use his own beliefs to write two stories with the same problem…)
I really think that the success of DN was more due to the fact that the characters were so good looking,thus creating a crazyfangirls fandom really fast…also the story was intriguing,yes,but as I said before if you look at the story in a much accurate,”cynical”and “professional”way you can find so much flaws,particularly about the middle of the story to the very end…What I’m trying to say,is that this point of view about girls show really how much childish and immature authors are,…and if all Japanese culture is like this,well,they really sucks!(sorry I can’t explain in other way how stupid I found all the things said in bakuman…especially that about dreams…-_-)

By: Melinda

Melinda — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:27:52 +0000

Ha! :D

And thanks. :)

By: Lianne Sentar

Lianne Sentar — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:22:21 +0000

Sexism from Ohba and Obata? You don’t say!

Good review, by the way.